Soul Eater Episode 45

February 16, 2009

Soul Eater Air Date: February 16, 2009

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{ 292 comments… read them below or add one }

admin February 21, 2009 at 10:17 pm

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Yes they vanished. Time for me to take some action and unapprove posts that were rather lewd. GHOST, please be civilized.

Anime Ootaku February 21, 2009 at 10:43 pm

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Reading through these comments I gotta say thanks admin. Also it seems that there are quite a few here that now or are learning Japanese. I find it cool cause I’ve been taking classes recently and I actually understand what many say.

x lil-anime-adik x February 21, 2009 at 11:33 pm

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Pikayu

im kinda startin 2 think ur kinda right about crona not havin a gender… it might not be true but… uhhmmm how do i say this… she’s a monster.. not in a bad way… (i think she/he’s cute). medusa made her after all.. plus, when maka saw her soul, its red like every other mon- creature… i know its kinda horrible 2 say monster…. then again, medusa’s a witch so then crona has 2 have a gender…. aahhh, forget all of this crap i said!!! this is all confusing to me… its bad enough that im thinking she’s dead!! wel, some people are sayin she’s not..

Nemo February 22, 2009 at 12:42 am

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If I remember correctly in episode 44, Medusa calls Crona her “Daughter”. So by that logic, Crona’s a girl.

If you don’t belive me go check out episode 44…

Name (required) February 22, 2009 at 12:44 am

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yo admin thanks for puttin all this stuff up and doing all the work on this site. You dont deserve all the crap that some of these people give you

P.S i couldnt think of a name…hence the name i chose.

GHOST February 22, 2009 at 12:45 am

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FRIENDS IM STILL HERE

TheTrueKira February 22, 2009 at 1:12 am

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please let me post comments =(

Kira February 22, 2009 at 1:26 am

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Yeah, GHOST, that may be so, but the admin has obviously decided to not let you defile the chatting here. So, you may be here, but comments like that…probably not. Watch out for Pac-man on the way out. Lol. [been a bit too obsessed with the game lately. XD ]

white February 22, 2009 at 1:38 am

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RAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW????
wtf is with thsi RAW? i CANT SPEAK JAP?!?!? AND I DONT PLAN ON LEARNING IT so u ass holes need to sub dis…. :(

JGCD February 22, 2009 at 1:45 am

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Kira, the previous “admin” post was another impersonation, as you can see there is no direct link on his name plus admin can do what he wants to posts and/or everything to anyone on this site and to this site. But it seems to me that the real admin is absent for the last posts, Maybe he read them but didn’t post and it’s none of my business what so ever but when someone asks a legitamate question, he usually answers, it’s not like him to ignore, hope everything is okay.

JGCD February 22, 2009 at 2:10 am

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This crona debate is quite a hot topic. I guess I can this can be decided by voting. There are four choices for this poll, the question is….
What is Crona’s Gender/sex?
A) A boy
B) A Girl
C) Both (Her….I won’t say that word with mixed ages)
D) It’s not Anatomically Correct (In other words, Neither)

Everyone who brings up the crona question or opinion must….well not must but should participate. So far the count is:

A)5
B)17
C)1
D)15
*Note: Saying he/she, him/her, etc. is like saying neither so it counts to neither or D.

If no one wishes to discuss this topic anymore, meaning is tired and done with, then Crona is a girl. The votes will still count if anyone post anything about crona and gender. Just know Majority rules and Majority right now is saying Crona is a girl.

Nameless3eyes February 22, 2009 at 2:17 am

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First and foremost, Chrona is a girl.
reason 1, she wears a dress.
reason 2, she is referred to as “she” in earlier episodes
reason 3, the a on the end of her name “Chrom’a'” is universally a way to effeminate a name
reason 4, the red soul wavelength i think is just because of how she has black bllod. i mean, i think it has something to do with the monster inside her. chrona as a person is female
reason 5… well really i thought the dress was always a dead giveaway lol

thats how i see it at least.

secondly, although really more importantly, thanks admin for everything, i’v been using this site since ep 21 and i LOVE it.

ps cant wait for the subs to come on this one… hehe jus sayin
=]

Inferno February 22, 2009 at 2:23 am

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@ Pudding

I’m more referring to methods Ragnarok uses to bully Crona, its not a common boy bullies girl relationship, I’m not being sexist, well, I’m not trying to be, but its not often you see boys giving girls a noogie. Anyways, if I’m being sexist aren’t you for saying that if Crona was a boy he’d be a boring character? However that’s not my only argument of course. If he didn’t have contact with people, isn’t that what he would say? If Crona said ‘I don’t know how to deal with boys’ I’d think he is a girl as well. But in that position a girl wouldn’t say ‘I don’t know how to deal with girls’ well it isn’t normal at least. She would use the term ‘other people’ since that is what she should be referring to right? But the contact thing is invalid since before that event Crona and Ragnarok already ate over 100 human souls. I don’t think he said that because of his lack of contact.

As for your ‘Maka has no breasts’ theory, that is wrong. It may depend on the angle usually but a good example is at the party or when she is at home, you can actually see Maka has curves, AND MAKA DOES HAVE BREASTS. Still don’t believe me? Take a look at 04:49 on THIS ep , they look like breasts to me… You need a good eye to notice these details, it helps a bit because I do Art but when I look at Crona in any angle, NO chest AT ALL. I’m not using that as stone wall proof it’s just what I noticed. This trumps your ‘hips’ argument and in the same party, Crona is wearing trousers and his hips looked pretty normal to me, they only seem bigger when he wears that dress.

But as I said before Crona might not be any gender. Or the writer probably doesn’t know himself so he just uses Crona to confuse people. Or maybe I’m not looking hard enough for evidence that suggests he is a girl but the only evidence I still have is the dress as a kid and… Well nothing, he might be, but nobody has given me a good reason why. Its just ‘I think Crona is a girl’ or ‘She wears a dress’ which is pretty DUMB. There has got to be a better reason than that, isn’t there?

Inferno February 22, 2009 at 2:35 am

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HOLY SHIT! My bad about the long post again, I need to work on shortening my sentences. Well I had to get my point across about the lack of decent evidence explaining why Crona is a girl. If I found a good reason maybe I’d care less as to why so many people think Crona is a girl

admin February 22, 2009 at 2:42 am

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GHOST, the only reason you are still here is because I just unapproved the comments and decided not to ban you from commenting/visiting the site altogether. If you continue with the same attitude as you have, you are giving me no choice…

iCrAzEhGirl February 22, 2009 at 2:57 am

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*sigh* okay please ,admin, when is the sub coming out?, i know you may not have the exact date or time, but maybe an estimate might help me, i have an OCD(lol) which is a Obsessive Compulsive Disorder ,*cough* what Death the Kid has, but mines different and i have to do things a certain way and this is throwing that way off.I know it’s kinda pointless to ask but what ever , just an estimate please?(so i won’t go crazy)c:

Kira February 22, 2009 at 3:06 am

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Oh. Well then. Lol. Yeah, I kinda thought it was a bit odd that the admin name had no link. Either way though, the obscene posts have been deleted, so, minus the part about the admin, most of my statement still stands. *nods*

Seriously, the whole impersonating the admin thing is really annoying. *throws Blair and Mizu at fake admin* lol XD

admin February 22, 2009 at 4:01 am

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@ iCrAzEhGirl

It usually comes out before this coming Monday but don’t hold me too it.

Kira February 22, 2009 at 4:44 am

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So like, if anyone here is fluent in spanish, there’s a spanish sub up on youtube that you can watch. Hopefully this will ease the minds of some people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJwPZj20d3M&feature=related
[Unfortunately...I'm still in Spanish I...so it doesn't help me that much.]

niiikkkkiii February 22, 2009 at 5:33 am

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hey admin! thx soooooooo much for this website! ive been using it since ep. 1!!!! its sooo awesome and i really appreciate ur subbing and i cant wait for the subbed 45!!!!!! :]]]]

Choppa February 22, 2009 at 5:37 am

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First and Formost thanks admin, love the site. Nameless3eyes said it best. SHE IS WEARING A DRESS!!!!!

Lyfin February 22, 2009 at 5:39 am

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I took Spanish I AND II, but forgot everything…

iCrAzEhGirl February 22, 2009 at 6:30 am

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Okay thank you so much admin!<3 even if it doesn’t come out before Monday it’s okay thank you so much though!*huggles admin* x3

Bob February 22, 2009 at 6:42 am

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Feels like the subbers are really dead…….

Kamelot February 22, 2009 at 7:17 am

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@ Inferno

1) In one episode, i think 30-something, chibi ragnarok starts to bully Chrona and flip up her long shirt/skirt/gown thing, and Crona indignatly holds down the skirt in the way only a violated woman would.

2)Medusa repeatedly calls Crona her daughter

3) Her hair is PINK. PINK!!!

I originally thought Crona was male, but now I think it’s a ‘she’, also, you have to take into account that Japan just LOVES making anime characters that absolutely fuck with our sense of gender.

… Or we could simly make Chrona a herm or something, just so long as it can be percieved as a direct insult to Medusa…

delighted February 22, 2009 at 8:14 am

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Crona Aint No Male..Shes a girl it was said so in previous few episodes…and NUUUUUUUU!i cant watch veoh….they are slow and they dont allow my country…T.T

Amaikon February 22, 2009 at 9:27 am

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o.o Oh jebus! These comments are turning into a forum.

Both sides of the Chrona-gender argument are valid, which makes me believe even more that Chrona’s gender is not meant to be known. The subber’s put that Medusa calls Chrona her daughter, but I do believe some japanese-speakers clarified this to be a false (in..was it ep 44 comments?) I don’t really know myself. Chrona uses Boku. Chrona wears a dress. Chrona’s completely flat chested. -back and forth-

I’ve been pondering why the whole day, and the only reason why I would think the creator would want Chrona to be an ‘it’ would be because of the fact that Chrona is a demon sword user. She stood, at least in my mind, for someone on the brink of turning into a demon god and through Maka (friendship) she is able to come back and become stronger mentally. That act itself is a powerful message which becomes even stronger when there is no gender ties. It could be anyone coming back from the darkness.
At least that’s what I’ve come up with. xD

D; This wait is making me want to pick up Japanese again! (which could be a good thing..) Thanks for the site admin, and for allowing the comments to become a forum. It gives me my Soul Eater fix when the subs aren’t out. lol <3

Amaikon February 22, 2009 at 9:33 am

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Oi! It was the begining of this Episode’s comments where the whole daughter argument was!

LMAO. It feels like it should have been in last episode, since there is so many comments.

chilly February 22, 2009 at 11:30 am

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urghhh…..I think I’ll die before the sub comes out.
urghghglhuga…………..

Audio February 22, 2009 at 11:44 am

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Yay…the raw for the next episode is almost out :(

Radar February 22, 2009 at 1:36 pm

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Still not subbed?

admin February 22, 2009 at 1:39 pm

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any1 want to take over this website????

goten256 February 22, 2009 at 1:52 pm

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heyyyyyyy so 3rd round from black star vs mifune

SoulEaterAndSmashBros February 22, 2009 at 1:54 pm

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Crona = hermaphrodite… it’s gotta be. therefore, Crona can pick whether he/she wants to be a he or a she. however, i don’t think it’s made its mind up yet haha :D

and yeah Kira makes a good point. it’s not admin’s fault.thanks for the site and the free speech :)

there is one thing though… is admin a boy or a girl?

Naikousei February 22, 2009 at 2:07 pm

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Okay i do know some japanese, enough to watch the raw if i’m really desperate in times like these, but i can only know generally whats going on… sometimes i can pick out words and look them up if theres an emphasis on them but
PLEASE! this is driving me up the wall.
im dying for the subbbbbbb!
oi D’X

CookieMonster February 22, 2009 at 2:22 pm

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i thought that the translator didnt know so he/she put her down, also i thought that if it was medusas daughter wouldnt she be a witch.. therefore i think crona is a guy, its not really a dress its like one of them robes for vicars :P

x lil-anime-adik x February 22, 2009 at 3:55 pm

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Nemo,
i sed wat u sed earlier this week as well, but didnt u read Deth-the-kid’s comment?? it says:
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Death-the-Kid says, February 19th, 2009
@ x lil-anime-adik x

okay, Medusa did not say daughter. she said “anata wa watashi no kodomo”
“kodomo” is japanese for child. she said “you are my child” that was the subber’s choice for gender, so Crona’s gender is never specified. I hope this helps and people read this and learn. ^_^
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there u go….

x lil-anime-adik x February 22, 2009 at 4:12 pm

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*banging head on the wall* i really wnt the sub 2 come out!!!!

Kracksickles February 22, 2009 at 4:31 pm
sbk February 22, 2009 at 5:10 pm

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The sub is finally out, search Mininova.

cheers

animefreakss4 February 22, 2009 at 5:22 pm

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I normally don’t post much, but im a dedicated Soul Eataer fan…like everyone else i am getting impatient for the subbed episode 45 to be released. Also, i read everyone’s comments to look for clues on when the subbed version will be released lol, and yea its hilarious how imature GHOST is and how we have an impersonating admin.

GHOST February 22, 2009 at 5:25 pm

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this is BS da new episode is comin tmr and theres no damn subs WTFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

animefreakss4 February 22, 2009 at 5:55 pm
theinformer February 22, 2009 at 6:20 pm

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hey guys, to release from your anguish narutowire.com has 45 subbed on veoh. dunno if i’m allowed to say that but what the hey mine as well try to share the info :)

Jaszzy ^_^ February 22, 2009 at 6:23 pm

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I found an Eng Subbed ep on veoh.com. Click the linkhttp://www.veoh.com/search/videos/q/soul+eater+45#watch%3Dv17824570xEth273P

Avelanch February 22, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Kiyi February 22, 2009 at 6:29 pm

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@Choppa
Barry the Chopper in FMA wore a dress. Does that make him a girl too?

Kaneharo February 22, 2009 at 7:02 pm

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On the subject of Chrona, I refer to he(r) as completely ambiguous, and some of the arguments as (s)he being a girl can be easily argued:
Dress: Medusa doesn’t care much about Chrona, so she probably has he(r) wear the simplest clothing possible to save on money.
Flat Chest: While there are girls that are flat chested, guys are as well.
Curves: Anyone can seem to have curves if you have them wear the right clothes.
Female voice: Some guys can easily sound like a girl, especially if they haven’t hit puberty. At the same time, female voice actors usually voice act for characters that aren’t quite adults, thus the female-esque voice.
Being referred to as ‘she’: It’s quite simple if you think about it. As previously stated, the japanese used for Chrona is Gender-neutral. These subtitles are not official ones by the creators themselves, otherwise, ‘it’ or ‘child’ would probably come up. For more info, look it up on the wiki.
And lastly, the Pink hair: there are male characters with ‘girlish’ colors for hair in anime.
Sure these arguments sound like I’m arguing that Chrona is male, but i’m proving the point that (s)he can be just as much male as female. So stop arguing that Chrona is one gender!
Now on the subject of subbing, why don’t we have a team here of people that know japanese, and they all work on subbing the episode all at once? That way, when it does get released, it will likely be as much as the sub-date says, perhaps sooner.

Name (required) February 22, 2009 at 7:08 pm

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YO ADMIN WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU!!!!!

you normally answer everything so well and are good with the timing and responding to everyone. You ok??? Listen, yes ghost has gotten out of hand but there is someone impersonating you!!!

TO ALL THE DUMFUCKES BLAMING THE ADMIN FOR NOT HAVING THE SUBBED EPISODE ITS NOT HIS(HER?) FAULT, ITS NOT ANYWHERE YET!!!
hope your ok admin, your absance is kinda weird

Name (required) February 22, 2009 at 7:09 pm

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o nvmind your back

admin February 22, 2009 at 7:29 pm

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Ya I’m back, I must stop waking up so late so I can post these videos sooner.

chilly February 22, 2009 at 7:50 pm

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huzzah!!!! it is subbed.

Kurasuke February 22, 2009 at 8:31 pm

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truly worth the wait.

SoulEaterAndSmashBros February 22, 2009 at 8:55 pm

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wow, that was sick!

i think black star is going to lose again to mifune, but mifune will have a change of heart and join shibusen :D

OR

black star will look like he’s loosing, then gain the ability to unleash tsubaki’s hidden power and own mifune. however, mifune will survive and still join shibusen :D he’s too cool not to!

by the way, check out http://www.myspace.com/kamikazepractice and give feedback, it’ll be much appreciated!! love to all

xx

Radar February 22, 2009 at 9:05 pm

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Hurray! its subbed!

Black Star vs Mifune! wooo! the last one was so epic, cant wait for this one!

SoulEaterAndSmashBros February 22, 2009 at 9:45 pm

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admin, are you a boy or a girl

(the REAL admin)

Tsuki-akai February 22, 2009 at 10:18 pm

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Nice! It’s finally subbed! This episode is one of the best yet.

admin February 22, 2009 at 10:24 pm

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A guy

Storms February 22, 2009 at 11:46 pm

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That was a really awesome episode. LMAO, Black Star sets off every single trap.
I’m really happy that Stein is finally back. He’s a cool character :P
In the end, it doesn’t really matter how long it takes to sub. It really isn’t admin’s (the real one’s) fault, and it must be hard to sub the entire thing. After all, fansubbers don’t get paid for the work they do, so I’m grateful it gets done at all, let alone in a week.
Can’t wait for the next episode! (I’m so impatient :3)

Agrippa February 23, 2009 at 12:06 am

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Dammit, I’m sticking to the manga now. Goddamn ‘happy ending.’

Blue* STaR2992 February 23, 2009 at 1:21 am

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wooowhoo finally subbed. ( Ever wondered if theres guna be a souleater movie? hmmm.. that’ll be fun!!!

Inferno February 23, 2009 at 1:23 am

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They had to kill Medusa didn’t they? She was the best villain, they had to let Crona survive and they had to make the next episode look so sick. Mifune v Black Star again

The 1st fight (ep 2) Black Star won on account of Mifune holding back (because he likes kids)

The 2nd (ep 28) Black Star got his ass kicked. I don’t remember one successful attack he did. Even that flashy Demon Blade didn’t work

In this one I think either Black Star would win to even things out, the fight would end in a draw, or they get interrupted

It would be fair to not rush subbers so much. Since their work is voluntary and they only have a few days to work on it we shouldn’t be the ones to give them a schedule. If I subbed I wouldn’t rush if people were going to be so demanding

Dexward February 23, 2009 at 4:11 am

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Yea! From the next episode preview, I could see that Excalibur would make an appearance!!

Zangetsu February 23, 2009 at 4:29 am

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man, looking at all of the the comments and the huge controversey of Cronas gender is quite amusing.

why don’t you consider this, it’s only a theory. The theres a reason the writers never gave crona a distinct genger was becuase they didnt think it was neccessary to. as in reffering to JDCG (spelling?) that it’s not anatomically correct to give Crona an exact gender.

however, I had to give my opinion. from episode 6/7 when he/she was introduced I thought he/she was a boy for awhille to the latest episodes of maka and medusa reffering to Crona as “her” or “she” making mine and many others mind set that Crona was more than likely ment to be a girl

Zangetsu February 23, 2009 at 4:31 am

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oh and (sorry for the double post) I can’t wait for the epic battle between Mifune and Blackstar their definately my favorite characters fighting style wise as the original positon to me, belongs to Soul

Yumiko February 23, 2009 at 4:46 am

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Okay, I don’t care if you are fluent or not in Japanese, please don’t use ONE Japanese word in an english sentence, it looks retarded.

Example:

GOMEN FOR ALL OF THIS STUFF HAPPENING!! ARIGATO GOSAIMASU!!

It just is.. yeah. Stupid. Either speak in full Japanese or full English. I don’t care if your learning and trying to practice it, it’s not necessary to use it here.

-Yumiko

†ºSInclairº† February 23, 2009 at 4:54 am

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CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! DONT DIE!!!

really she/he is like the best charactor in the anime/manga. Also to all the people that are raging about if she is a boy or girl, i have 1 thing to say… WHO CARES!! she/he is awsome end of story.

and HOW THE HELL DID EVERYONE KNOW THAT LITTLE GIRL WAS RACHEL ?? like madusa stole her body in a ally way and rachel’s mother didnt know what was happening to her + madusa changed her apperience so… i dont get it.

when is ep.46 coming out on sub. i cant wait!!

PS. i know this post is like all over the place but w/e.

†ºSInclairº† February 23, 2009 at 4:56 am

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oh i almost forgot but did maka and soul figure out how to use the demon hunter or was it just random like last time?

LegendaryCrona February 23, 2009 at 7:10 am

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Chrona is definetly a girl. I think we have all established that Ragnrok is a boy, and back in an episode some time ago, Ragnarok tried to lift up Chrona’s skirt. Key word being SKIRT. So either Ragnarok is gay or Chrona is a transvestite.

Afro Samurai February 23, 2009 at 9:00 am

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Hahaha this page has turned into a flaming contest/chrona gender debate forum. Anyways, it seems kinduv hard to me to build up to a decent ending in like 5 episodes now, I mean it’s barely building up to anything. Compared to other anime of the same format (51 eps) like FMA, it should be getting way more intensity by now. I had to marathon the last 10 episodes of FMA, and here I don’t feel bad waiting for another week even though blackstar vs mifune looks like fun … Maybe I’ll read the manga when the anime ends. Anyway thx admin for your reliable website, souleater is one of the only animes where I manage to use only one website !

PresidentEvil February 23, 2009 at 9:40 am

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yep random… or maybe cause Soul was playing the piano… I forgot… was soul playing the piano??

Tetsujintenshou February 23, 2009 at 12:35 pm

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I agree with Yumiko that stuff does get annoying, but to further point out, Crona’s a girl, simple. She’s not some plot device used to “confuse” the watchers cause that’d be stupid as hell considering that it serves no purpose to design an entire character around just that. Also, as to the writer not knowing the gender of his/her own characters…if you don’t know wtf your characters are then that’s just sad.

InfinityGM February 23, 2009 at 8:53 pm

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Stupid!

I’m referring to this episode. It was so full of plot holes that it makes Naruto filler look well thought-out!

…Okay, that was a bit much. It wasn’t that bad. But seriously, think about this:

-If Mary could “deus ex soul-vibrate” Stein’s insanity away, why didn’t she do so earlier?
-The Demon-killer attack only hurts evil? Seriously guys? Fail. ¬.¬
-That was an awfully quick recovery for Maka’s Black Blood activating, eh?
-Crona… didn’t die? What the HELL! It took a gigantic energy arrow through the frickin’ SPINE! That moment when it sacrificed itself actually impressed me! “Yes, now the plot is getting somewhere!” And then, Stein’s all like. “Ooo, he’s not that badly injured. It’s all good.”


Arrow. Through. The. Spine.

Okay, I guess the black blood kicked back in, yada, yada… but still, that was absolutely pathetic. Crona should by all rights be dead.

At any rate, the first half was great. The fighting was great… and I’m honestly glad to see Stein back. But the way they went about resolving the whole thing was just so BAD!

A far better ending would’ve been having Maka, forced to make a decision of whether to stop Medusa or save Rachel, pull off the Demon Hunter, slicing both Medusa and cute lil’ Rachel right in half, saving her friends, but severely damaging her sanity. Too violent and sad? Okay, fine!

How about Mary punches Medusa out of Rachel and THEN Maka slices her spirit in half! Frick, man! “Only harms evil” my ass! What, were those pillars evil? How in the hell does an attack determine ‘good and evil!’

At any rate, pretty weak. I hope the series picks up before the end.

JGCD February 23, 2009 at 9:31 pm

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Let’s Recap, there have been more opinions on the Crona Gender Topic. So far the count is:

A) 7
B) 25
C) 2
D) 19

In case you don’t remember what each choice is:

A) Boy
B) Girl
C) Both (A word said by SoulEaterandSmashBros I didn’t want to say in mixed ages, you guys know there are 10 year olds and younger ages reading and posting here too right?)
D) Neither (Which Zangetsu agrees with [Spelling is JGCD BTW])

@ Tetsujintenshou
In most animes it’s true the people can depict the difference between the characters and what their gender is but in this case it is a bit confusing, I have no doubt the writers know what they are doing but for the viewers to know for sure, I doubt that. Crona does things that both genders do, for example the ragnarok lifting thing, Crona did pull down like a girl in embarrassment but he also lifted Maka’s skirt and she didn’t do that, she hit crona. Another example is the party at shibusen, Crona dressed in a white suit, That doesn’t really mean much but all the boys were dressed in suits or casual clothes and the girls were dressed in dresses and female clothes, that implies crona could be a boy, or a girl just wearing a suit or maybe butch (not likely) plus look at the way Blackstar was treating Crona unlike anybody else. The only thing that can comfirm the gender of this character is the show who like likes crona or if crona goes to the bathroom, which door crona walks through or something of that revealing nature. Now don’t anybody post any dirty comments about what I just said, keep it to yourself if your thinking like that.

SoulEaterAndSmashBros February 23, 2009 at 9:42 pm

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Nice JGCD.

Make the count for D) 20 :)

JGCD February 23, 2009 at 9:44 pm

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Quote:
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February 23rd, 2009


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Lmao, So true. haha, Man that’s funny. *sighs* Okay, I guess they’re going to say that the wavelength of the Anti-demon wavelength looks for a particular resounance or something only evil souls have (like witchs and demons) and attacks/damages only that and since rachel isn’t really evil it didn’t affect her. Then they would probably say that the pilar was affected because it contained vector arrow or part of medusa’s soul since it was her place to begin with. Some bogus explanation like that.

JGCD February 23, 2009 at 9:47 pm

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Alright, The Crona Gender topic count so far is:

A) 7
B) 25
C) 2
D) 20

(Oh yeah, I just read my last post and it seemed like I was sarcastic, Sorry :) I was really laughing XD)

SoulEaterAndSmashBros February 23, 2009 at 9:49 pm

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HAHAHAHA jokes

SoulEaterAndSmashBros February 23, 2009 at 9:52 pm

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it’s true though… i was really enjoying that and how realistic it is… but now i’m a bit like “erm… wtf?”. i think it’s got a bit too far fetched

Beta Proxy February 23, 2009 at 10:39 pm

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Let’s recap this episode. Maka goes on a pis angst run, Chrona almost dies (the highlight) and Stein makes his long awaited return leaving everything once again to inexperienced unimpressive Maka (pis move). So far the only enjoyable part of this episode was the upcoming rematch fight with blackstar and mifune. Hopefully the one after that will show some more Kid and we can all forget about Maka for the remaining episodes. (Unrealistic wish) But can’t blame me for hoping.

SEfan February 24, 2009 at 12:19 am

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Okay, First of all,

Ugh…seriously people, the whole Crona thing is getting old. You shouldn’t waste the comment space arguing over it, go make a chatroom or something, please.

Second, dude, STOP IMPERSONATING ADMIN! Seriously, it’s not cool and very disrespectful to him because he works hard to keep this site up and running.

Third, don’t complain about the sub not being up. Either go learn Japanese, or wait patiently until it comes out.

And Finally, I have to say that I really liked this episode! Ohh, Black*Star vs Mifune, It’s gonna rock! :D

P.S Sorry for the long comment everyone. :D

Kira February 24, 2009 at 1:06 am

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Okay. To give my answer to the whole, why did the anti demon thing cut through the pillars. If I recall correctly, they said that that attack would wouldn’t hart Rachel because her soul wasn’t evil. Therefore, it doesn’t harm living creatures that aren’t evil. Let’s crack this down.

Medusa=living Witch…=Evil
Pillar=inanimate object. nothing protects it because it is not human and therefore does not have a soul. the attack will not harm an innocent soul. Pillar has no soul, so the rules don’t apply to it. Therefore, subject to damage.

Oh, and Mary didn’t do the attack before because there was only her and Chrona against Stein and Medusa. Stein, if everyone recalls, was doing pretty good against her so she didn’t really get the chance to focus enough to do that. However, two people distracting him would give her more time to focus herself for the attack and also get closer to him to actually use it. That’s my thoughts on that.

Akai Oni February 24, 2009 at 4:06 am

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“sigh”
okay,
28 for D
i got freinds over.
and i just think that it is hilarious about all of the people suddenly starting the whole”she called crona daughter” thing again. we covered this.

and to admin(fake):
impersonating the real admin i beleive can be considered a federal offense, so you should stop while you can

Also:
apologising for a medium length post when people are taking up several inches on my scroll bar is just hilarious…

People who are bitching about the sub not being up fast enough for you, the subbers are people to and have lives. you should be grateful that they are even doing this for you! and dont argue that other anime’s come out the next day because no one is the same. the subber probably had to study for an exam.

finally
does it really matter what gender crona is? what if the writer is purposly making crona so controversial just to ef with us? (just ranting right now). I am perfectly fine with crona being genderless because of the reasons that i said before
(being genderless absolutely fits crona being a monster(harsh word) and if it was a certain gender we would automatically assume stereotypes and character traits about herm.

YES! can we all just agree to meet in the middle and call crona “herm”?

Now, this is a long post and i apologize to anyone who i did waste their time.
sumimasen, boku wa baka ne?

Akai Oni February 24, 2009 at 4:08 am

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omg…..
that post was incredibly long…….
im terribly sorry!

*long live japan!*
lawlz

Akai Oni February 24, 2009 at 4:35 am

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1. sorry for the triple post!
2. I get shivers from maka’s “mmmmeeeeeduuuussaaaaaa!!”
3. Mary sensei was beautiful w/ the eyepatch, but omg shes friggin angelic w/o it!!!
4. i agree w/ who ever said this before but getting stabbed in the spine not being that serious is a joke.”
5. finally, i beleive crona is pulling a bleach right in front of our eyes.
*the wound does appear serious but i believe that herm’s condition is not that serious?”
sersly wtf?
roflolmao pulling a bleach…

Akai Oni February 24, 2009 at 4:46 am

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shyujyutsu! ten times!
sorry, quad post, im just relly excited…
i have a feeling that asura(kishin) is going to destroy shibusen…
in the end credits the shinigami giant face thingy is crumbling in midair, bout as hi as where it is on the school.
and when blair (my favorite female character ever, we need more bliar) is floating on her pumpking there is a massive explosion/sumthing in the distance, again about the same size as shibusen.
and finally, wtf is up with black star’s face at the very end of the end credits? when they are all standing together? the three red lines? maybe a souvenir from the upcoming mifune/bs fight?

InfinityGM February 24, 2009 at 5:14 am

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Beta:

I actually like Maka. She has rage issues, and she’s not as funny as Black Star and Kid, but she is, by far, the most human and “believable” of the three main characters.

Kira:

Nice thought, but she easily could have hit Stein with it back before he lost it enough to actually fight back.
I can’t see how anyone can’t see how the writers just pulled that out of their ass to solve the whole Stein thing before the end of the series. Stein is my favourite character, and it’s great to have him back. I just wish they didn’t pull the super-lame “old-character-has-sudden-ability” crap.

Akai:

Ending means nothing. None of the scenes from the first opening ever showed up in the series. I think whoever does the openings and endings just enjoys screwing with us.

Thanks for supporting me on the “Crona should be dead” side. That took every scrap of emotion that existed in the episode, mixed it with the One Piece dub, and smashed it into the last nonsensical episode of .hack//Legend of Twilight. This episode makes almost as little sense as the 1980s Transformers cartoon.

Kurasuke February 24, 2009 at 7:18 am

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okay ppl lets get real… its a damn anime.. not everything has to make sense i mean seriously you cant expect everything to be absolutely perfect

Kurasuke February 24, 2009 at 7:43 am

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and the pillar doesnt have a soul so the attack cannot dictate weather its good or bad… lmao

InfinityGM February 24, 2009 at 9:34 am

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Kurasuke:
It doesn’t have to be realistic. It has to make some degree of sense. Episode 45 is officially the “worst episode ever.” ~.^

The pillar thing really isn’t the point, by the way. An attack that only harms evil?
-Plot devicy, especially because this wasn’t mentioned earlier.
-A ‘get out of jail free’ card for the heroes.
-Not mentioned until this point.
-It’s a frickin’ energy scythe. It cuts things in half. Or at least it did until this episode. What, the Witchhunter hurts everything, but a Demonhunter will just ignore an average person?

Come on! It’s gotta make some sense within the context of the series! And it DOES NOT!

JGCD February 24, 2009 at 10:05 am

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@ Infinity GM:
I agree with what your saying but I guess the witchhunter is just an enhanced version of a scyhthe so it does the damage a scythe would do normally. But since Demon Hunter requires so much energy and concentration just to summon it, sustain it and use it for what appears to be one slash, maybe it’s not meant to be swung at an average person but if ever a good/average person were to get in the way of the attack, I guess that person would be unaffected. Of course all of this could be bullsh*& XD.

Recapping the Crona Gender Topic once more, regardless if this topic is getting old or not, people continue to post and as long as that happens I’ll keep updating the opinion count :) . So far the count is:

A) 7 – 8
B) 25
C) 2
D) 28

Choice A) says 7-8 because I’m including my vote now, I think Crona is a boy just raised like a girl by medusa. Crona’s hair is a Purple/Pink color but so is that character from one piece. Acts cowardly because was never taught properly how to face fears (In fact, created a second personality that was not sane and would kill anything just to be safe or away from it). Crona’s feelings toward Maka seem more like a loving relation feeling that a friendship feeling (you can see that at the party, and almost every episode crona’s in, especially this one), I would be surprised that soul doesn’t get jelous from the way Maka acts toward and about Crona but I remember he said he doesn’t feel that way about Maka. I don’t know whatelse to write for now, besides this post is long already :) .

Kurasuke February 24, 2009 at 2:37 pm

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also infinity the Deamon hunter had only been used once before by accident so how would they have time to explain the effects of it? i would understand what you mean if they had been using it the entire series but apparently only stien knew the ability she had and he was being affected by insanity (oh yeah btw. stien is a beast). so even if it is a kinda “lame” plot twist it still works just as well as any other plot twist. another thing like this is the fact that cid is dead but he fights like every other episode. so you really cant define an anime by its plot twists because there’s no way to dictate a valid explination to many of the things in it. probably the only reason im defending this episode is because stien was brought back but hey…. idc

Kurasuke February 24, 2009 at 2:40 pm

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also note… the attack is called the deamon hunter… not the “cut down everything that appears in front of the damn blade hunter” =D

Kurasuke February 24, 2009 at 2:41 pm

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demon*…

Amaikon February 24, 2009 at 8:56 pm

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Lawl’d.

I so agree about the Chrona thing…IT SHOULD HAVE DIEEEDDD.
D: I love Chrona, but seriously. happy solutions are… well, they’re happy, but realistic solutions leave an impact. Whyyy did they do this?! It was as bad as Twilight (in general).
Same with Mary’s technique. .___.;

Oi, the demon hunter I could debate on though. It’s on thin ice, but still.

MAKA’S THE SHIT. Seriously, total awesomeness. She’s the only main female heroin I’ve liked in a while. :D Realistic, not a total fangirl over someone (just protective of Chrona, which makes me like her even more), strong…yayy!

Sara Michelle February 25, 2009 at 4:31 am

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Holy fricking ajdskfasdkl;fskl; I LOVE THIS SHOW!! Daaaaamn!!! XD Seriously. Totally worth the wait. That was so effing awesome!!! And lmao, Blackstar at the end. Makes me giggle.

Kaneharo February 26, 2009 at 1:29 am

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Ok, one thing about Chrona taking the blade: It’s a bit simple on why Chrona survived: The blade itself could have just as easily missed vital organs. If anything, Chrona may have merely lost a lot of blood, leaving it in a barely alive state. Besides, there weren’t only Bleach Characters who have been in worse situations. Chrona was merely pulling a Cloud. Now, Ragnarok on the other hand…. That may be a different story.

And Something tells me that Medusa isn’t quite dead, cause this is the second time she ‘died’ and her soul didn’t even remotely appear. Unless the Demon Hunter had completely obliterated her soul, it’s likely that she still may be alive through one of her snakes somewhere… Probably adding to the Chrona’s Alive theory at some point.

Akai Oni February 26, 2009 at 4:59 am

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lawlz kaneharo,
i said bleach because of episode 16 or so when the red head slashes ichigo with his chain blade thingy and annihilates where his heart should be.
but on your second point,
the image of medusa that was cut in half was her soul/spirit so yes she is in fact dead. (souley on the logic that what else could have appeared?)

Akai Oni February 26, 2009 at 5:06 am

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@infiniteGm
that was thhe best metaphor i have ever heard for an anime…and ive watchd tengen toppa guren lagann!
serious props!
also, now that i look back at early episodes, ur right,
we never saw shinigami sama dance…

Black Guy March 1, 2009 at 7:27 am

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@Kaneharo:

No offense, but bullshit.

This episode had some serious potential, but they ruined by–as most anime do–just throwing nonsense in for the heros can survive and have a happy ending. Shit, take lessons from Naruto. Atleast they had the balls to kill off favorites (*sniff* like Kakashi…that was a proper death for you. It suited you and your past..)!

Crona should be dead. Sacrificing yourself so your first and best friend can survive is heroic. They should’ve left it at that. Crona finally experienced the joy of protecting someone she (<—-this is my opinion on the gender thing) loves. If they were going to do this, why did they have her [fatally] injured in the first place? It seemed they had a trail of thought, and then abandoned it at the last moment. It is stuff like this that keeps the show from achieving greatness. They had the perfect chance to do real drama, but they hesitated and let the opportunity pass them by. Pathetic.

—- And don’t use Bleach as an example of what is survivable. It is worse than Dragon Ball Z because they actually do get fatally wounded. Anyway, Shinigami are more resilient and less mortal than Humans in Bleach.

Infinite Gum is right about the Mary’s “secret” power. She had multiple chances to use it, but she didn’t. Sounds like they pulled it out of their asses to me. ‘Nuff said on this subject.

Maka’s anti-demon wavelength. It seemed they altered it. Last I checked, inanimate objects aren’t evil. No matter how you look at it, Soul Eater (or just Stein and Maka and Soul) contradicted itself with that. Anyway, isn’t Evil subjective? I considered Maka evil for having such a sickeningly hypocritical personality. Hell, the entire staff of Shibusen is evil. Most of the students are too. Fucking racist. Kill the wi– Nevermind. They should’ve kept it at a superior version of the anti-’witch’ wavelength instead of adding the self-rightous holy attribute to it. Fucking disgrace.

Aside from the action, this episode was a fucking joke. I’d rather spend a week with Excaliber than watch the ‘drama’ and ‘development’ of this episode again. It is a deceitful thing. It promised me sweets, but when I got close, it threw shit in my face. Not nice at all. This episode showed the mediocracy of the writers. The only positive thing I have to say about is that it got me psyched for the next episode. Black Star vs. Mifune. Finally. The battle was unbelievably awesome in the manga (and considering I don’t much care for un-animated fight sequnces, you know it was good), and I have no doubt it will be great animated.

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